• Washington
  • Wall Street
  • A.I.
  • Hollywood
  • Media
  • Fashion
  • Sports
  • Art
  • Join Puck Newsletters What is puck? Authors Podcasts Gift Puck Careers Events
  • Join Puck

    Directly Supporting Authors

    A new economic model in which writers are also partners in the business.

    Personalized Subscriptions

    Customize your settings to receive the newsletters you want from the authors you follow.

    Stay in the Know

    Connect directly with Puck talent through email and exclusive events.

  • What is puck? Newsletters Authors Podcasts Events Gift Puck Careers
Welcome back to In The Room, my biweekly private email on the inner workings of the American media industry—coming to you a day early with some breaking news.
 ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ 
In The Room

Good morning, I’m Dylan Byers.

Welcome back to In The Room, my biweekly private email on the inner workings of the American media industry—coming to you a day early with some breaking news. In this special issue, we go inside CNN, where C.E.O. Chris Licht, beset by falling ratings and revenue, is throwing a Hail Mary pass to see if he can recruit his old friend and colleague Gayle King for a weekly primetime show.

Will Gayle King Bite on CNN?
Will Gayle King Bite on CNN?
Chris Licht is out to his pal and old colleague about hosting a prime time interview show that would still allow her to host ‘CBS Mornings.’ It could be just the sort of narrative-changing move he needs. Will she take it?
DYLAN BYERS DYLAN BYERS
“What do you think is better about CNN since you arrived?” Chris Licht, who is now nine months into his tenure as CNN’s chairman and C.E.O., was asked in an interview this week with The Los Angeles Times. “Too early to say,” Licht replied, “because we haven’t really executed a lot of what we’re going to do. But I hope that CNN is better in that I’m allowing people to do their jobs and leaning into the talent that we have here.”

For many CNN on-air talent, producers and rank-and-file staff, more than a dozen of whom I spoke to after the piece ran in the L.A. Times, Licht’s remarks were frustrating and discouraging. To some, in fact, they manifested yet another sign that their embattled leader still does not have a strategy for the storied news network beyond cutting costs, per his mandate from Warner Bros. Discovery, and making the programming less politically polarizing.

In the meantime, CNN is suffering its worst ratings in a decade, profits are down more than 25 percent from the Trump-Zucker heyday, and the network has dramatically scaled back its ambitions, leaving primetime effectively vacant, neutering CNN Films and doing away with its streaming efforts entirely. Indeed, Licht’s way may be the only way, but you can’t blame the personnel inside the business for wondering what lies at the other end of the rainbow—and wondering whether, given the scant details provided, there is a plan at all besides more cutting, more streamlining, and a crossed-fingers hope that something works out.

Many of the sources I spoke with this week chafed at Licht’s decision to give yet another interview to the press in which he provided no specifics about the network’s future. Some also chafed at his use of the first person when describing the network: “You realize that I have the No. 1 digital platform in the world?” he said, referring to CNN’s digital business—a business that was No. 1 when he inherited it.

The most pressing question for many CNN insiders is what Licht intends to do with prime time. For months, he has floated the idea of bringing over talent from the world of late night—a Hail Mary that seems out of step with his desire to make the network less partisan, and an economic delusion given the asymmetrical goals of managing costs and placating late night talent. Licht insinuated as much, too, suggesting that he knew first-hand the cost associated with comedic programming from his time running Stephen Colbert’s show. In the L.A. Times interview, Licht denied that he was considering a pure comedy play, but confirmed that he was having “conversations with culturally relevant individuals from the worlds of entertainment, sports and comedy who can bring fresh and unique perspectives to the news.” He also revealed a new deal to simulcast Overtime, the streaming-only extension of HBO’s Real Time with Bill Maher, on Friday nights. It’s an inexpensive deal, as Warner Bros. Discovery also owns HBO. It also runs the risk of making Friday nights on CNN more, not less, polarizing.

Licht has indeed been eyeing big talent beyond cable news. In recent weeks, he has approached Gayle King, the star of CBS Mornings, to pitch her on hosting or co-hosting a weekly show on CNN, sources familiar with the discussions told me. Licht brought King to the CBS morning show a decade ago, when he was its executive producer, and the two remain close. The proposal currently under discussion would allow King to continue anchoring CBS Mornings while also hosting the new weekly show for CNN—a situation not unlike the one Anderson Cooper has with the two networks, where he hosts a nightly show on CNN and also serves as a correspondent for CBS’s 60 Minutes.

The King of Prime Time?
King’s appeal is obvious. She is a celebrity in her own right, with several landmark interviews on her resume. She’s also the rare talent who would be as comfortable interviewing Joe Biden or the family of Tyre Nichols as she would be with a Will Smith or Jennifer Lawrence. In that regard, she probably has more potential than anyone in the media to become CNN’s next Larry King (Gayle King Live, anyone?). And, to the extent that there is still demand for that kind of programming, a Gayle-centered interview series could provide a much-needed boost to CNN’s ratings and reputation.

Of course, it’s very possible that the King deal will never come to fruition—either because Warner Bros. Discovery will decide it doesn’t want to spend millions of dollars to hire a new weekly host at a time of aggressive cost cutting, or because King will decide that there’s no upside in hitching her bright star to a metamorphosing cable news network. In either event, it would force Licht to once again return to the drawing board. Asked about the overtures to King, CNN spokesman Matt Dornic said, “Chris has talked to dozens and dozens of people to gauge interest in potential projects at CNN.”

In the immediate future, Licht will look to solve his primetime problems with his existing bench. Sources at the network say he is currently planning to enlist top anchors to host primetime specials. On Monday, The Daily Beast’s Lachlan Cartwright reported that these would take the form of town halls “pegged to big news and political events”—something straight out of the Zucker playbook. Then again, hiring Gayle King is also a move out of the Zucker playbook. Last year, just days before he was unceremoniously ousted amid an investigation into his relationship with Allison Gollust, a fellow CNN executive, The New York Times reported that Zucker had reached out to King to pitch her on taking over the nightly 9 p.m. time slot.

Meanwhile, Licht’s sole signature programming move to date, CNN This Morning, remains on perilous footing. The show had its lowest-rated week since launch earlier this month, averaging just 331,000 viewers—less than a third of Fox & Friends; and less than half of MSNBC’s Morning Joe—and just 65,000 in the 25-to-54-year-old demo. Some sources at the network also mentioned that Kaitlan Collins, one of the show’s three co-hosts, has had a hard time adapting to her new assignment as a morning anchor. Collins rose to stardom as a Trump White House correspondent, where she made a name for herself as a fearless, take-no-bullshit reporter, but has yet to find her footing behind the desk, sharing the spotlight with older and more experienced anchors.

In his L.A. Times interview, Licht gingerly acknowledged that he and David Zaslav had candidly discussed the full-throttle public nature of leading CNN through a three-dimensional transformation of the brand, its parent company, and the global economy. And it’s true that, in many profound ways, CNN has become a petri dish for the travails of the media industry writ large, as its largest incumbents manage the declining profitability of linear while simultaneously investing in the more expensive, lower-margin, mega-saturated streaming industry.

On some level, their frustrations aside, CNN’s employees shouldn’t need to urge Licht to articulate a strategy when the future is already playing out before them. There isn’t any programming masterstroke that will reverse the brave new world in which cable, and cable news, finds itself. CNN will occupy a smaller role in a rapidly enlarging entertainment media ecosystem. It will be less expensive to operate, helmed by more modestly compensated talent; the unit economics will be rejiggered. They can look no further than Showtime, once the second most prestigious brand in Pay TV, which yesterday became a shingle on Paramount+, the latest sacrifice at the altar of operational efficiencies.

Licht may suggest that he’s cutting to grow, but secular forces suggest he’s cutting to help Warner Bros. Discovery increase its own EBITDA and then find a dance partner for the next theater of the streaming wars. And at that point, it’s anyone’s guess. Ultimately, Licht’s strategy is to run with the current, without conveying just how depressing it is. Managing transformation is how it’s framed in the lingua franca of the McKinsey cinematic universe.

Alas, it’s important work and it sure ain’t easy. In his interview with the L.A. Times, Licht spoke—as he has since day one—about the need “to restore trust” in the CNN brand. That is one area where CNN insiders felt as though Licht should actually have been talking about himself.

FOUR STORIES WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
Elliott or High Water
Elliott or High Water
News and notes on the latest inside chatter on Wall Street.
WILLIAM D. COHAN
Inside Riseboroughgate
Inside Riseboroughgate
Should the ‘To Leslie’ star be disqualified from the best actress Oscar race?
MATTHEW BELLONI
Trump’s Media Gauntlet
Trump’s Media Gauntlet
The media is boarding Trump’s plane again, but is that a good thing for the country?
PETER HAMBY & JON KELLY
S.B.F. Mama Drama
S.B.F. Mama Drama
Chronicling the story behind most remarkable victim of FTX’s collapse.
TEDDY SCHLEIFER
swash divider
Puck
Facebook Twitter Instagram LinkedIn

Need help? Review our FAQs
page
or contact
us
for assistance. For brand partnerships, email ads@puck.news.

Puck is published by Heat Media LLC. 227 W 17th St New York, NY 10011.

SEE THE ARCHIVES

SHARE
Try Puck for free

Sign up today to join the inside conversation at the nexus of Wall Street, Washington, A.I., Hollywood, and more.

Already a member? Log In


  • Daily articles and breaking news
  • Personal emails directly from our authors
  • Gift subscriber-only stories to friends & family
  • Unlimited access to archives

  • Exclusive bonus days of select newsletters
  • Exclusive access to Puck merch
  • Early bird access to new editorial and product features
  • Invitations to private conference calls with Puck authors

Exclusive to Inner Circle only



Latest Articles from Media

Bari Weiss
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Bari’s Prison of Her Own Design
After a month of contentious delays, 60 Minutes finally aired its piece on the notorious El Salvador prison CECOT. The “hostage standoff,” as one person put it, ended in an uneasy truce that could have been reached a month ago—and without exposing the distrust and division at Bari Weiss’s CBS News.
Mathias Doepfner
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Politico Succession Games Begin…
An era at Politico has been ending for the last decade—at least since the departures of Mike and Jim, then Jake and Anna, and, of course, the sale to Axel Springer. But with John Harris ascending to the chairmanship, again, it’s finally Axel’s baby. And Mathias Döpfner may be looking outside the mothership for Harris’s successor.
Tony Dokoupil
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Tony and Bari on the Rocks
The sponcon set dressing at ‘Evening News’ provoked predictable outcry at the House of Bari. But are brand partners in TV news just an inevitability at this point?


Ben Smith, Justin Smith Semaphor
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Semafornication
Ben and Justin’s recent fundraise at an 8x trailing revenue multiple, which follows David Ellison’s extravagant purchase of The Free Press, suggests we’ve entered a new era of digital media valuations. Unless we’ve just reentered the old one. Anyway, is Punchbowl next in line?
Tony Dokoupil
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Tony Accords
Tony Dokoupil’s disastrous debut as anchor of CBS Evening News highlights the uncomfortable truth about Bari Weiss’s tenure: While her politics take center stage, it’s her inexperience that’s her real liability.
Jim Steyer
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Common Sense & Sensibility
A candid chat with Common Sense Media founder Jim Steyer on what lies in the hearts of Silicon Valley’s biggest bigwigs and what the A.I. bros are doing to your children. Plus, thoughts on Sundar, Zuck, and his brother Tom’s California gubernatorial bid.


Bari Weiss
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Weiss Flag
It’s tempting to view Bari Weiss’s first big blunder—pulling a 60 Minutes segment critical of the administration’s deportation efforts—as purely political, which it may have been. But it may have been the product of something more mundane: Bari doesn’t know how to lead a newsroom.


Get access to this story

Enter your email for a free preview of Puck’s full offering, including exclusive articles, private emails from authors, and more.

Verify your email and sign in by clicking the link we just sent.

Already a member? Log In


Start 14 Day Free Trial for Unlimited Access Instead →



Latest Articles from Media

Journalists
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The 2025 Media State of the Union
The inherent tension of the journalist-as-brand model, the continued erosion of institutional authority, the potential for an A.I. newsroom: Industry leaders weighed in on all this and more at a panel this week to unveil the results of our latest Puck–Orchestra survey.
Justin Smith ben smith
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Gulf of Semafor
As Semafor expands further into the Gulf, it’s becoming clear that Justin Smith and Ben Smith’s media baby is looking a lot more like the former than the latter.
Jim Lanzone Yahoo
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Lanzone That Time Forgot
Don’t waste your tears on Yahoo, the Internet 1.0 relic that collapsed into Verizon and then the warm embrace of private equity. C.E.O. Jim Lanzone explains how the Apollo-owned company is poised to make the most of its post-search distribution, and why niche is the new scale.


Bari Weiss
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
A Weiss Christmas
While The Free Press is flush with holiday spirit, Bari’s job reinventing CBS News is proving more vexing, amid anchor dreams dashed and the age-old challenge of enacting institutional change.
Bari Weiss
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
CNN’s Bari Christmas
In the wake of Netflix’s Warner Bros. coup, the folks at CNN are, perhaps naively, looking on the bright side: They may not have to work for Bari Weiss after all. But times in Spinoffville are going to get tough—and fast.
Olivia Nuzzi
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Nuzzicracker Ballet
The star-crossed saga of Olivia and Ryan continues its salacious, shameful pas de deux—ensnaring not just Vanity Fair’s new editor but further tainting journalism writ large. Even worse, it elides the real question: Why is a certain pathetic world hanging on every word of a jilted lover’s creepy account proffered without editorial oversight?


Hamish McKenzie, Substack
Julia Alexander • January 31, 2023
Substack Entrapment Theory
Google Zero killed the open web, ChatGPT isn’t replacing lost traffic, and superstar talent is a phenomenally difficult business. Digital media companies trying to stay upright are belatedly turning to creator-first subscription platforms in search of sustainable, niche audiences—without realizing that they’ve seen this movie before.
Get access to this story

Enter your email to get access to one article and free previews of our private emails from Puck authors and editors.

OR

Already a Member? Sign in



Latest Articles from Media

Alison Roman
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Roman Holiday
The internet’s favorite food author finds herself at a familiar crossroads for writers who have become brands unto themselves: trying to balance scale, new ventures, and authenticity while keeping a loyal audience fed… in this case literally.
David Zaslav
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Zaz’s Hollywood Endings
With the final bids for Warner Bros. Discovery under careful consideration, David Zaslav’s tenure as an ersatz Hollywood mogul may be coming to an end. Now, it’s all about the numbers, and which suitors have a glide path to regulatory approval. Just which sunset Zaz will ride into is anyone’s guess.
Olivia Nuzzi
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
A Brave Nuzzi World
Between the Bravo-ready mess of the Nuzzi-Lizza imbroglio and Michael Wolff’s Epstein deference, it was a monumentally bad week for media ethics. As journalists, even principled ones, become increasingly central characters in the stories themselves, is this kind of spectacle an unavoidable component of a new media world order?


Gerry Cardinale
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The RedBird Balloon
After a second bid to take over The Telegraph met a particularly British brand of resistance, RedBird Capital walked away from the whole ordeal. Now the 170-year-old paper is back to waiting for a Goldilocks buyer.
Jim Bankoff
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
The Bankoff Job
Jim Bankoff is considering a spinoff of Vox’s faster-growing podcast network from its legacy publishing business. While it makes economic sense-ish, what does it mean for the future of brands like SB Nation, The Verge, and… ‘New York?’
Stan Duncan
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
Stan By Me
A handful of disgruntled employees confronted Stan Duncan, Condé Nast’s H.R. chief, about the company’s decision to shutter Teen Vogue. There was a video, of course, which captures either a noble moment of employee solidarity or a bunch of entitled staffers willfully unaware of Condé’s dwindling fortunes and the realities of the legacy media business. Either way, how far they’ve fallen.


Mark Lazarus
Dylan Byers • January 31, 2023
MS Doom
Spirits are uncharacteristically high at the post-spinoff MS NOW, but this is still a late-stage linear operation that’s shedding (mostly geriatric) viewers at a steady clip. Despite Versant’s money and Rebecca Kutler’s ambitions, is it just a matter of time before the realities of cable’s decline drag them under?


  • Terms
  • Privacy
  • Contact
  • FAQ
  • Careers
© 2026 Heat Media All rights reserved.
Create an account

Already a member? Log In

CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
OR YOUR EMAIL

OR

Use Email & Password Instead

USE EMAIL & PASSWORD
Password strength:

OR

Use Another Sign-Up Method

Become a member

All of the insider knowledge from our top tier authors, in your inbox.

Create an account

Already a member? Log In

Verify your email!

You should receive a link to log in at .

I DID NOT RECEIVE A LINK

Didn't get an email? Check your spam folder and confirm the spelling of your email, and try again. If you continue to have trouble, reach out to fritz@puck.news.

CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Google
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Apple
CREATE AN ACCOUNT with Apple
OR USE EMAIL & PASSWORD
Password strength:

OR
Log In

Not a member yet? Sign up today

Log in with Google
Log in with Google
Log in with Apple
Log in with Apple
OR USE EMAIL & PASSWORD
Don't have a password or need to reset it?

OR
Verify Account

Verify your email!

You should receive a link to log in at .

I DID NOT RECEIVE A LINK

Didn't get an email? Check your spam folder and confirm the spelling of your email, and try again. If you continue to have trouble, reach out to fritz@puck.news.

YOUR EMAIL

Use a different sign in option instead

Member Exclusive

Get access to this story

Create a free account to preview Puck’s full offering, including exclusive articles, private emails from authors, and more.

Already a member? Sign in

Free article unlocked!

You are logged into a free account as unknown@example.com

ENJOY 1 FREE ARTICLE EACH MONTH

Subscribe today to join the inside conversation at the nexus of Wall Street, Washington, A.I., Hollywood, and more.

START 14-DAY FREE TRIAL

  • Daily articles and breaking news
  • Personal emails directly from our authors
  • Gift subscriber-only stories to friends & family
  • Unlimited access to archives
  • Bookmark articles to create a Reading List
  • Quarterly calls with industry experts from the power corners we cover