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Welcome back to a St. Patrick’s Day edition of What I’m Hearing, slightly abbreviated today because I picked up a little cold in Florida.
Programming note: The Times ran a nice piece on Puck and other media outlets finding success without relying on commodity news for the masses. On The Town, Julia Alexander suggested Netflix do pre-shows on YouTube for live events to help bring audiences over, and litigator Jeremiah Reynolds explained what screenwriters can do if their scripts have been ripped off. Subscribe here and here.
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Discussed in this issue: Bob Iger, Michael Kassan, Bill Maher, George Cheeks, Pete Distad, Bryan Lourd, Dana Walden, Jeremy Zimmer, Jimmy Pitaro, Alan Bergman, Nelson Peltz, Michael Nathanson… and the squatters of Beverly Hills.
But first…
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| Who Won the Week: Caitlin Clark |
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| Heading into her final March Madness, the Iowa basketball star is fueling crazy TV ratings. Women’s college hoops viewership is up 60 percent on all national networks and 48 percent on Fox, according to the network’s research head. If Clark reaches the Final Four, it’ll be huge for ESPN.
Runner-up: Timothée Chalamet, for Dune: Part Two passing $500 million worldwide, meaning that with Wonka, he has now starred in two movies in less than four months that crossed $200 million domestic. When was the last time that happened? |
| Bill Maher ‘Has 100 Percent Not Left CAA’ |
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| Are cooler heads prevailing in the drama between CAA and Bill Maher? THR reported Friday that the Real Time host had fired his agency of nearly three decades after I revealed that C.E.O. Bryan Lourd hosted an exclusive Oscar party at his house—and didn’t invite Maher. But Marc Gurvitz, Maher’s longtime manager, told me today that his client “has 100 percent not left CAA.” Maher certainly expressed his displeasure over not being invited to the party, where guests included Kamala Harris, Harrison Ford, Julia Roberts, and Margot Robbie, as well as a bunch of top studio executives and producers. (Other CAA clients also read my item and complained about not being invited, I’m told.) But Maher has been loyal over the years, CAA just did his re-up through 2026 at HBO, and Lourd & Co.’s skill set has always included sweet-talking existing clients off various ledges. (Star showrunner Taylor Sheridan recently tried to reduce the commission he pays the agency, according to two sources, and the CAA guys were able to keep the status quo.) So let’s see if Lourd and TV head Steve Lafferty can save this one—or if they want to put in the effort. CAA declined to comment. |
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“No, he didn’t clear the speech.” —A rep for Len Blavatnik, the Ukraine-born Jewish billionaire and Zone of Interest executive producer, who stood behind director Jonathan Glazer during the infamous Oscars acceptance in which Glazer claimed to speak for all three of the men onstage. I imagine some interesting phone calls led to that Blavatnik statement.
Now for an update on the Disney succession sweepstakes… |
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| Iger’s Four Horsemen of the Succession Apocalypse |
| Now that Disney, under the watchful eye of Nelson Peltz, appears to have settled on a quartet of internal (yet by no means ideal) candidates, can it manage a complex process that allows for one winner without creating three sore losers? |
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| I got stuck for a bit in the Disney scrum near the jamón station at the Governors Ball last Sunday. At the center, of course, was C.E.O. Bob Iger, who was congratulating the various contributors to Poor Things, which won four of the company’s five Oscars that night. Not as many as his arch-nemesis Brian Roberts at Comcast, but a long way from the tech interlopers: Apple’s Tim Cook and Eddy Cue, on the other side of the Dolby Ballroom, got completely blanked, despite 10 nominations for Killers of the Flower Moon; Netflix co-C.E.O. Ted Sarandos and Amazon leader Andy Jassy, perhaps sensing the coming shellacking (each won just one Oscar despite a combined 21 noms), didn’t even bother to attend the ceremony.
Not far from Iger, as the Oscars and the Spanish ham were passed around, was Dana Walden, Disney’s TV chief, whose ABC network aired the awards show, and Alan Bergman, its film leader, whose Searchlight division delivered Poor Things, the latest in a pretty incredible run of Oscar winners over the past 15 years. The Disney crew also included Josh D’Amaro, its parks chief. All of Iger’s direct reports are invited to attend the Oscars, but it was hard not to notice that three of the four internal candidates to become C.E.O. (ESPN’s Jimmy Pitaro was on the East Coast) were circling him in a proud moment for the company’s creative engine—especially amid a run when those moments have been few and far between.
This week, Bloomberg confirmed what’s been clear for a while now: The special committee of the Disney board is looking at only those four internal candidates as possible successors when Iger steps down, as he’s supposed to do at the end of 2026. (At this point, you’re allowed to spit take and howl in laughter whenever an Iger retirement date is mentioned.) An outside candidate is still a possibility too, I’m told, but Iger and the committee, now led by chairman and former Nike C.E.O. Mark Parker, would prefer an insider. To that end, Iger has been spending extra time showing the four wannabes what they don’t know, and an executive coach is helping to polish them, lest they someday refer publicly to Disneyland maintenance staff as janitors and not “cast members.”
I won’t rehash the pros and cons of each candidate, except to emphasize the whole problem here: None of them is ideal. Bergman came up on the finance side of the content business and manages the major franchise generators; D’Amaro runs the company’s most profitable unit and is a celebrity among hard-core Disney parks fans; Pitaro has found himself in the guts of Disney’s linear-to-streaming transition; and Walden has great taste and relationships, and her purview includes TV studios, networks, and now streamers. Nobody has the full package, and each has experienced challenges lately, especially as the content side at Disney has stumbled. But that’s what a bake-off is for. Let’s see what they cook up.
I know the lack of experience knock is frustrating, and it’s probably overstated in the media—all good executives learn and grow into their roles, and there’s still a ton of time before the end of ’26. But given what happened when Bob Chapek—primarily a back office-style parks and products guy—ran the whole company, it’s understandable that the decision-makers would fear asking too much of someone again. Plus, most observers believe the company’s future will rest on its ability to escape the cratering cable TV business and turn streaming into something remotely comparable. All the candidates except D’Amaro have been charged with tackling that problem in various ways, but none is a digital native or even a specialist, and that’s kind of a red flag. “We continue to believe prioritizing D.T.C. profitability will be a key driver for the next leg of Disney share price upside,” the influential analyst Michael Nathanson wrote in a recent note to clients. Who is best to lead that transformational push? |
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| Disney isn’t expected to make any moves before the end of this year. And even when it does, the shift will likely be to elevate one or two executives into a president or C.O.O. role, just like Iger had before he took over. James Gorman, the former C.E.O. of Morgan Stanley, who led a model bake-off process at his bank, just joined both the Disney board and the succession committee. When asked about the smooth transition at JPM, back in December, he said, “I think we landed the plane really well with three great candidates, and then one of whom became C.E.O. and two stayed as co-presidents.”
That last part is key. Now that the bake-off is somewhat set, the last thing Disney wants is one person to get the nod and the others to bail in disgust. That’s essentially what happened, with slightly lower stakes, at Warner Bros., where Time Warner C.E.O. Jeff Bewkes oversaw a sweepstakes between digital chief Kevin Tsujihara, film leader Jeff Robinov, and TV head Bruce Rosenblum. When Tsujihara was named C.E.O. in 2013, the other two left, and when Kevin was forced out amid a sex scandal six years later, there wasn’t an obvious internal person to replace him.
In the meantime, keeping investor Nelson Peltz and former C.F.O. Jay Rasulo off the board and out of that process is the immediate priority. Iger & Co. have done a pretty good job articulating to shareholders that Peltz is more trouble than he’s worth. And Disney stock is now up 23 percent in 2024—nowhere near pandemic heights, but a positive trajectory that at least temporarily validates Iger’s rejection of outside help. (Let’s see what tomorrow’s inevitable press release says about the first weekend viewing of Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour on Disney+; I’m betting it’s huge.) Speaking at the Morgan Stanley conference a couple weeks ago, Iger said that Disney is pacing ahead of its free cash flow guidance of $8 billion for 2024. That’s due mostly to spending less and making fewer movies and shows, exactly what Peltz says he would advise if let inside the Mouse House. Nathanson, in a separate note, forecasted Disney spending 30 percent less on non-sports content in 2024 than the company did just two years ago. That’s a cut of more than $6 billion—a lot of Santa Clause shows and Hocus Pocus 2’s that just aren’t happening.
Peltz probably thought sitting down for a big profile with James B. Stewart, the Times columnist who wrote Disney War, the epic tome about the last big corporate upheaval at Disney, would burnish his image and help him win over shareholders. But… no. We do learn that Peltz once wanted to be a ski instructor, and he belongs to a slightly less elite Palm Beach country club than you’d expect. But we also learn that few top executives would even talk to the Times about him, “even people he counts as friends and admirers, some of whom he recommended The Times interview for this article.” Yikes. Oh, and it was Donald Trump who first introduced Peltz to Ike Perlmutter, now his partner in terrorizing Disney.
Peltz, according to Stewart and co-writer Lauren Hirsch, really just wants to be loved and respected. He’s spent a career as an activist, buyout operator, and corporate raider, but he “hates being mentioned in the same company as a rogues’ gallery of activists, buyout operators and corporate raiders.” Okay… rather, “he thinks he should be compared to someone he admires and tries to emulate: Warren E. Buffett.”
Really. While there is ample evidence that Peltz’s presence at a company can increase share price performance, and he tries hard to argue that C.E.O.s end up loving him when he forces himself onto their boards, this graph might be the most damning in the Times piece:
Several executives who have faced Mr. Peltz’s attention said they saw a common theme: He accelerated existing recovery plans, and then reaped credit for the success. Chief executives who get along with him have to swallow their egos — something that might prove difficult for someone as prominent as Mr. Iger, especially given all the recent vitriol.
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Wait, and this gem:
No one The Times interviewed could recall Mr. Peltz’s arriving on a board with bold ideas that no one else at the company had ever thought of.
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| Exactly. This is all silly. Peltz hasn’t articulated any strategy that Disney isn’t already executing, other than spend less and listen to me. He’s demanded Disney focus on succession, which, with the recent news, the company is pretty clearly doing—although you are free to be cynical and believe that targeting imperfect internal candidates is all part of Iger’s plan to declare them “not ready” and stay beyond 2026. Peltz will likely be a huge distraction in the highly unlikely event that the votes go his way at the shareholder meeting on April 3. And given that Disney and Iger now have a four-headed succession monster to groom and train, it’s a distraction that they certainly don’t need. |
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| Bill Cohan breaks down what an Apollo deal for Paramount Global might look like. It’s not pretty. [Puck]
CBS, one of the last bastions of scripted series on broadcast, is looking at more 90-minute reality shows for next season, says its leader, George Cheeks, in a long interview with Joe Adalian. [Vulture]
Plus for Pete Distad, a long-suffering Apple and Hulu executive: He gets to run something. Minus: That something is the “Spulu” sports TV joint venture that some don’t think will even launch. [NY Times]
All those new private equity-backed soundstages and production facilities are under construction just as demand is scaling way back. Geniuses! [Bloomberg]
Dylan Byers has everything you want to know about Don Lemon’s firing by Elon Musk but are afraid to admit you care about, plus the current options for defenestrated TV news hosts (Piers Morgan is generating $500,000 a month on YouTube?!?). [Puck]
“Disastrous,” “ill-fated,” “debacle:” A few of the words that appeared in the headlines of obituaries for Jerry Levin, architect of the AOL-Time Warner merger. [NY Times]
If you won’t click on an article called “The Squatters of Beverly Hills,” I can’t help you. [Curbed] |
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| My Thursday chats with warring exes Michael Kassan of MediaLink and Jeremy Zimmer of UTA generated opinionated feedback on both of them. Some examples…
“Thank you for the most entertaining read of the year. I can’t help but wonder if any of these agencies had female leadership, maybe they could avoid such emotional fights.” —A (female) executive
“Zimmer vs. Kassan reminds me of when Iran and Iraq were at war.” —A producer
“You should know that many of us thought this was a bad idea. The outcome was predicted by me and others.” —A UTA employee
“[Kassan is] smooth as silk, exquisite taste, and immense people skills, but a fraud nonetheless. He totally hoodwinked UTA, and after taking millions and continuing to support his lifestyle, he’s going to be able to start a new ‘ad business dating service’ with minimal outlay (relatively speaking). Both sides are right and both sides are wrong. Typical entertainment.” —Another executive
“Hard to feel bad for UTA. They knew what they were buying, and if they didn’t, they were negligent and should replace their leadership.” —An investor |
| Finally… The Chart of the Week… |
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| Just how much is Amazon Prime Video upending the connected TV ad landscape? New data from eMarketer suggests that 80 percent of its nearly 160 million Prime Video customers will watch ads now that they’re required to pay extra to avoid them, causing its revenue to spike to five times the overall U.S. CTV ad market. And by 2025, Amazon will generate more than Peacock, Netflix, Disney+, and Paramount+ combined… |
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Have a great week, Matt
Got a question, comment, complaint, or a reliable 15-2 upset pick for my bracket? Email me at Matt@puck.news or call/text me at 310-804-3198. |
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